IN THIS SECTION
Start Here Alternative View: “Identity Politics” and how Hispanics and Latinos really feel about illegal
Why Culture Important
A Good Mix
Cultural Issues Which Can Impact Police Work
Reverse Discrimination in Work Place
Turfing and Everyone Wants to Rule the World
Male Gender Roles
Male Hispanic Machismo
Alternative View to Hispanics and USA in USA
2020/09/24 Survey: Hispanic Americans Most Opposed to Illegal Immigration, Defunding Police. By John Binder
Fifteen focus groups of Hispanic Americans and polls of white and black Americans, conducted by Ian Haney López
and Tory Gavito, reveal that Hispanic Americans are the most convinced by campaign rhetoric that opposes illegal
immigration and defunding local police departments.
While Trump has made inroads with Hispanic Americans, the research shows that Democrats’ identity politics efforts
have largely failed in terms of convincing large swaths of the Hispanic community.
Specifically, as Breitbart News noted, Democrats and Biden have sought to couple all non-white minority groups
together under the umbrella term “people of color.” The phrase, though, is hugely unpopular with Hispanic
Americans, the research finds.
Another study showing the obvious: Americans who are Latino don't like progressives' divide-and-rule identity
They want what Americans want; politicians to help them & their kids get decent wages, cut crime, etc.
Advantge: Trump's populist GOPhttps://t.co/dFjYcQoeuG
— Neil Munro (@NeilMunroDC) September 19, 2020
The majority of Hispanic Americans surveyed rejected the term “people of color” and said they preferred viewing the
Hispanic community as its own designation that is assimilating into American life through hard work.
Culture is a complex subject, a big topic. Various ways to look at it. Each person is likely to have his or her own
slant on it.
For the purposes of this website, the term refers to social aspects around a group that are identifiable from any
other group. For example, a Native American culture, a Chinese culture or a white American culture. Most
people have a general sense about that.
Culture might be seen as a template you use in a word processor document; it is like a set of features added to a
blank page. A person born into this world is like a new document awaiting its template called Greek, Eastern
European, Jew, Muslim, Southern Baptist…..and so on….
The subject is taken further here to flesh out ideas about how certain group behaviors can lead to and support
Usually crime does not operate in a vacuum. In addition, one society’s crime is another society’s freedom fight
or resistance movement. Our culture is about who raised us and where we grew up. We learn from our
parents, aunts, sisters and brothers, ministers or priests, coaches and school teachers. At least a piece of our
childhood culture sticks with us for a lifetime even if we move or marry someone from another culture.
Culture includes language, body language, sounds in language - for example, we can be speaking the same
language but our intonation, slang and preferred choice of words can be different based on nuances in our
culture. Culture can include visual aspects, like clothing, tattoos, hair styles, OK cars to drive and not OK cars,
types of houses or neighborhoods and a whole lot of other things. It can include taboos and things people can
say or talk about and what they cannot discuss. There can be punishment for breaking spoken and unspoken
rules of conduct or going across certain lines. Please see Wall of Silence in https://rivergold.net.
This subject about containing a social group in an identifiable subset of the greater population or globe takes
us to who is boss and how power is distributed or not. Some cultures want to pay more attention to this than
others as a matter of what is heard at home over a lifetime or how gangs can dominate and punish the local
people for not conforming. If a child has been beaten and verbally attacked into submission until he finds he
has to become a tyrant to stop being squashed all the time, this is part of a cultural issue.
As police officers and federal agents, a person comes to the job with a cultural background because no one is
born and raised in a vacuum. How a job is done or not done can be attributed at least partly to cultural
patterning and beliefs. For example, religious beliefs might create a tendency to think and respond in a certain
way when confronted with some real world problems. Some people might put a priority on religion over
country, knowing that certain laws are expected protocol but their beliefs are another thing. In a world of
Nazis, following spiritual principles might be a good thing, but in the USA in which the country did try to set up
fair laws to protect people from vigilante behavior, it might be something else to follow one’s principles and not
the law. For example, if one’s religion suggests most women are sinful and need to lean on their husbands or a
primary male leader in the group, that individual in the USA might not play fair with a woman needing help.
The same thing can hold true in Afghanistan when a young boy is being chained to a bed and sexually abused
by a dominant male elder in the group; that group can say it’s OK to do that because of the culture; here in the
USA the laws indicate it is not OK to do that. One person’s social beliefs would clash with the American laws in
Culture in policing can impact how people think and operate with themselves in the policing community and
the public. For example, it might be thought of as “cool” to keep your mouth shut about a fellow officer who is
doing something wrong. Also, a new police officer might find he is experiencing group pressure to follow along
with beating members of the public pulled over for a basic traffic stop. There can be intimidation to play along
or lose one’s job or even one’s life.
Social pressures in policing communities can include mixed races and cultures clashing for dominance and the
way to run this country, and to indicate who is really boss here. For example, a La Raza member in a police
group might want to work things so that a certain Hispanic orientation is the way to go, not the general
American way. That person could be fighting the system from within. He could be working within and from a
broader cultural network outside the police system, like familiy members and friends from his old
neighborhood, the prison system and even places like Mexico and certain areas in Latin America.
On the other hand, a white cop with strong Irish Catholic tendencies might be working from another cultural
predilection, one in which the anger is over having gang fights between whites in his neighbhorhood and
blacks from a certain gang nearby. There can be strong ideas about abortion, women’s role in the house and
world and other things that could cloud his judgment on the police job. He might have old historic family ties
to Irish Catholics in their fierce longterm battle against the British. This can include old family secrets and
stresses and strains which impact his judgment and behavior in other aspects of his life, including on the job.
No matter how culture impacts us, the more sensitive and educated we become, the better we can think
through the possibilities and curb vigilante behavior. We can also be better problem solvers and more assertive
about seeking help when confronted by bullying or negligence on the job.
Why Culture is Important
We bring our upbringing, as well as racial and religious issues, into the police departments. Culture is the social
glue that binds people together. There are a set of characteristics and tendencies which make a culture
distinct from other cultures. It is likely culture was an evolutionary survival tool to keep families and extended
families and other social ties together against the odds of elements, animals and other tribes. Social
tenaciousness and cohesiveness might have made it easier to carry offspring to the next generations by
increasing change of survival until mating and birthing occurred. Group bonding might have taken pride in,
with a feeling of part ownership of, tribal babies (it’s an extension of me) so that mother and child were better
taken care of, thus encouraging continuance of the family line as extended tribal family. By having a wider
sphere of identity, more people were likely protected, kept under an overall umbrella which insured their
genetic and cultural success to future generations.
Crimes, including those by and against police officers, don’t occur in a vacuum. Group associations and male
gender roles can impact how an officer thinks and operates. Various roles can express themselves in police
work as an extension of those found in church, early childhood raising with male role models, an area’s social
networks including family and friends, and more. Also a sense of other can create a sense of us against them,
as in civil rights contexts. This might push certain tendencies to the forefront because a racial group feels
themselves to be under stress or otherwise fighting against the system, including the one that employs them.
The other problem is that they might want to rework this system to make it more like their culture. This can
include erasing and supplanting the old system with another one. When that happens, the original best
intentions of United States laws and practices can be thwarted. In police systems, this can spell disaster.
Police persons who do not genuinely agree with the American system need not become police officers in the
United States. They need to take their cultural and religious agendas elsewhere.
A good mix
Is there really anything like a “good mix?” What if a good mix includes “everyone but whites” or “everyone but
Muslims” or “everyone but Jews” - a mix of persons in several ways, but one that does not include some group
One way to prevent abuses in a police department, or any other governmental agency, is to firmly commit to
the ideas that true diversity include a good mix. In some areas of the country, we have to encourage people to
seek a good mix that includes whites; in other areas, we have to make sure the good mix includes African
Americans or some other non-white aspect. Too much of a good thing can spell disaster.
Cultural Issues That Can Impact Police Work
Male Gender Roles - see below
Machismo: see below
Shariah Islamic Fatwa and Shariah in general: - see below
Religiously connected sexual abuse that can impact police systems
one way or another
Also see Shariah Islam
Dominionism (Extreme Christianism) https://rivergold.net/religion_dominionism.html
Everyone Wants to Rule the World
Turfing often refers to gangs taking over an area by putting up lots of graffiti in that place, having some dons or
head chiefs intimidating the area. It can include clothes, symbols and more. Police should see turf controlled
areas as military priorities in this day and age. They require strategic counter-operations on a government and
military level so we can take back our cities and towns from these thugs. Everyone who wants a normal and
safe life, no matter their skin color, culture or religious orientation should be on board in this priority operation.
It requires both police and members of the public work together and have good communication with mutual
trust. It will require a high level of coordination and organization. Part of the problem is we likely have had
shadow operatives in with the planning against gangs, keeping things from really happening all the way:
somebody is paying somebody off, somebody is making money from international drug networks supplying
stuff to that area and so on. It is not that anti-gang operations have not been attempted in this country. They
have, many times in different ways over the years. It’s that we have a shadow operation keeping things in the
old status quo. We need to start unraveling the real players in these enterprises by exposing the various types
of possible. The police need to believe we can counter organized crime; many have lost hope in this country
that this is actually possible.
With that in mind, turfing involves oppression. Sometimes the dominant culture is white, sometimes it is
African American, Mexican American, Native American, Chinese. When any one area in the USA seems to have
succumbed to negativity and discrimination against any one race, watch out. Sometimes the main race in the
area is providing a cultural theme for everyone else as if it is the only game in town. What we want to watch for
are “good mixes” in this country to help push back things becoming imperialistic. We want everybody to be
safe, have equal employment opportunities and have equal representation in all of the government services
offered the public. If there is too much of one race or culture in government and large national employers, we
need to say Watch Out - who is really running the show here - a mafia? A planned organized crime network
geared toward just one kind of person? A religion? A civil rights group type, like one dominated by the Muslim
Brotherhood? Why aren’t there any whites here? Why aren’t there any blacks here? Why only whites? Why
only Hispanics? Use your eyes and ears and be prepared to go into the places you hand out your money to and
look around. Is this a place that would hire YOU? If not, why not? And if not, do you want to spend money
Police people need to be sensitive to their own racial, cultural and religious situation in terms of how it is played
out in the community they serve and their own work places. Most are very sensitive already to these subjects,
but how can we take it to a higher level so that we are all working together no matter our differences? For
example, do we have Hispanic or Irish officers playing out a Catholic theme in their neighborhoods? Is there a
group of people in town, including police officers, bus drivers, Salvation Army deliverers and more trying to get
everyone “on board about Jesus” or about “Mohammad” or any other religious belief to the point they are
sharing inside information on a non-believer and targeting that person in certain ways as he or she moves
around town? Are police part of the problem, not part of the solution, in a network violence case like this? If so,
how do we investigate and stop it?
Cultural fanaticism often starts with religious fanaticism, but this is not always the case. Communists running
through civil rights movements and college campuses have been applying sinister agendas on a largely
unaware American public for decades. This brand of Communism can operate like a fanatical religion. Please
see the author David Horowitz for more on this topic; he was a Jewish Communist associated with the Muslim
Brotherhood in the 1970s and pulled out after a violent murder of one of his work associates made him realize it
was an organized group of thugs who were more about violence and oppression than any real civil rights.
Police need to realize that hidden agendas in organized crime, often disguised as civil rights movements, can
impact many aspects of their jobs and can suck them into one side or the other of a plotted war game
designed to get everybody mad, mixed up, hating each other, pulling in groups like the ACLU for mega-bucks
lawsuits, paying off the media for fake news stories, screwing with judges and court cases, paying off or killing
real witnesses, creating fake suicides, disappearing people and the whole nine yards.
When there is not a good mix - the mix is corrosive - reverse discrimination
How willing are your non-white employees ready to hire a white person in an all Hispanic department? How
likely are they to bully or disenfranchise that white person, or play various secretive games against him or her,
including setting him up or letting him take the rap for someone in the family (family, tribe, friendship
networks, club or race) whether inside or outside the police force? Once raised to management, how likely is a
Hispanic in that department to only hire Hispanics or Native Americans, excluding whites, from that time
forward? Do they realize racial multiplicity does in fact include white persons, not just a variety of non-whites?
On the other hand, in an all white department, how likely are the hiring managers to hire an African American
or other person of color? How likely are they to exclude a person of color from a sense of being on the team,
advancement or pay raises? Is there any bullying?
How willing are both white or non-white managers to play fair in hiring practices and on-the-job-treatment
with persons of another race? Is there a sense of teamwork and reciprocity between races and genders?
These questions apply to all government jobs across the country. Again, too much of a good thing can spell
disaster for American security. It can prevent proper police work from adhering to American laws designed to
protect people. A good mix can help push back anti-American agendas, white supremacist tendencies,
religious cults and regional quirks. It can help keep things from going underground; can encourage creative
thinking; can bring in outside ideas and innovation; can help prevent abusive tendencies from becoming a bad
Reverse Discrimination in general (includes post offices or anywhere else)
Fed Employment Law Blog
https://www fedemploymentlaw com/blog/2016/06/reverse-discrimination-in-the-workplace-what-it-is---and-
Higgin Botham Blog
https://blog higginbotham net/how-to-hire-for-diversity-while-avoiding-reverse-discrimination-claims
https //www xperthr com/news/employers-should-be-careful-not-to-engage-in-reverse-discrimination/9311/
https://www eliinc com/how-to-avoid-a-diversity-backlash-at-your-company/
https //work chron com/address-reverse-discrimination-workplace-16869.html
2016/07/27 Update on Reverse Discrimination Claims in New Mexico. By Elizabeth A. Martinez
https //www modrall com/2016/07/27/update-on-reverse-discrimination-claims-in-new-mexico/
Excerpt: The New Mexico Court of Appeals recently considered the legal standard applying to employee
reverse-discrimination claims under the New Mexico Human Rights Act (“NMHRA”). Reverse
discrimination occurs when a member of a majority group is discriminated against on the basis of a
protected factor, such as race or gender. In Garcia v. Hatch Valley Public Schools, 2016-NMCA-034, cert.
granted, 2016-NMCERT-___ (No. S-1-SC-35641, Apr. 14, 2016), the court held that non-Hispanic workers can
bring reverse-discrimination claims under the NMHRA, and that such claims will be analyzed in nearly the
same way as other NMHRA discrimination claims. This holding makes it significantly easier for New
Mexico employees to succeed on reverse-discrimination claims under the NMHRA than under Title VII. As
such, New Mexico employers could see an increase in reverse discrimination claims and should take care
to document non-discriminatory reasons for all employment decisions, including decisions affecting
traditional majority groups such as men and non-Hispanics.
MALE GENDER ROLES
Machismo lends itself to resistance and rebellion against mainstream gender equality practices in the
United States. The idea is the man should handle it in social contexts with women. This includes ego
sensitivities of various sorts, the most pronounced being sexual. There is a pride of male sexuality, a
tendency to take a conversation with a woman toward the sexual - it can get graphic fast, including visual
images in his head while talking to her; a crude but unfortunately realistic example is where he wants to
show her how his penis is and how good he is in bed; there might be sexual jokes running through his
head or uttered against her with the other guys in the room once she leaves the room, the jokes are at
her expense and designed to reconfirm male superiority. There can be an unwillingness to get down to
business or to respond to her questions or requests for help. He can become irritated inside in his mind,
whether or not he says anything about it, or he can find himself wanting to turn the conversation toward
sex. There can be a tendency to not really listen to what she has to say and to resent the fact she is taking
up even brief dialogue space by focusing on herself or what is on her mind.
There can be a reluctance for her to go into male turf, including areas like an automotive garage or a
male-only police department. The men can want to control certain activities of the woman, including
body language, forms of speech, when, how and where to eat, types of dress and more.
Frequently machismo can be connected to deep insecurities of manhood; it is suggested strong ties to
the Hispanic/Italian Catholic system can have influences. Where there has been sexual abuse of the male
to male sort, it can make men feel confused about their gender roles and sexual orientation; as a result,
they might feel the need to put on more exaggerated attitudes of manhood to cover up those troubling
When confronted with machismo, the men might make superficial signs of change, pretending to
comply with American value systems for gender equality, but down inside they are fighting it the whole
time. Also, their tendency is to convince themselves they are being nice and fair, but there is something
missing in their understanding of what it really feels like to be honestly fair with a woman. The most
difficult part of machismo is this aspect where they convince themselves they are complying when they
really are not. Somehow they just don’t get it; call it early childhood programming, mind control, culture,
whatever, but down inside this guy just doesn’t get it because he cannot and will not empathize with
how the woman feels by sensing how he would feel in her shoes if the tables were turned. Somehow he
just simply is not able to bridge the situation to be able to see it from her perspective. This is the gap in
communication that prevents machismo from truly evolving.
Beyond this, it is suggested here machismo is linked to ancient historical behaviors with roots across
various races and cultures, such as Asian, Far Eastern and Jewish peoples who spread into the
Mediterranean and Spain. Italy and Spain have similar issues as Hispanic peoples of the southwestern
United States. It is taught early through speech and inflections, body language, male role models and
group dynamics between uncles, grandparents, siblings, extended family across geographic distances.
The programs run deep, making it hard for men to stand back and look at themselves in order to make
changes that are real and lasting.
It is suggested here that police departments be leery of hiring males exhibiting signs of exaggerated
machismo because it can lead to problems later - violence, sexual aberrations, lawsuits, unnecessary
killings, aggression during off hours, backtalk, retaliation against people who anger them, playing
favorites with family members, divulging secrets to cohorts and the lack of willingness to adapt to new
ideas. Machismo takes away from the cool-headed professionalism needed to stay out of trouble.
Male Hispanic Machismo from Notes section
“Let me handle it”; “I will make your problems go away”; “I will protect you”
“Sex will make it better”; “If white women say Hispanic are reverse racists, sex will make it
better” - (the fact is, turning to sex to solve gender and racial problems won’t make it better)
Shaming (Some comes from Catholic background), Gainsaying Women - Looking for the real
or imagined bad in white women
Catholic and Shamanic mixture of tendencies, including the occult, witchcraft
Tendency to not listen and to jump to conclusions about whites including white females
A tendency to cheat whites out of their money, over-charge, to lie, to do a half-baked job, to
fake a job, to seek attrition (whittling away) of white or American resources
Overly sensitive to any perceived or real slight
A tendency to be retaliative in a variety of ways
Tendencies to stalk and use “surround sound” both locally and across large distances using
cartel members; surround sound has certain cultural characteristics
Physical abuse common - domestic violence, sexual abuse, beatings
Shariah Islamic Fatwa and Shariah in general
The reason Fatwa is included on Police Factor is that more Islamic influences have occurred in this
country than many people realize. It enters the door through various channels, including Civil Rights
groups, war zone players who are influenced, cartels and gangs who have had interplay with Islam in
Mexico and Latin America and beyond. The danger of Islamic Shariah and Fatwa is the way it can slip in
largely unrecognized and unnoticed. You need to think of it as letting Dracula in the door. Once
vampires get in, they go after the blood. They often seem charming and amenable on their way in the
door, but the fact is they have a plot to take over.
Groups infected can be Christian fundamentalists, conservative Republican sectors, media, American land
space, strategic locations next to American governmental and military facilities. The people often have
funds for training so can come in through college and high tech jobs. People tend to over-simplify how
potent the danger is.
Fatwa is about attacks on women, but its roots in Shariah Islam need to be understood from the context
of broad anti-American agendas. In this regard, it’s about both women and men. Fatwas are the single-
minded goal to fight a woman who speaks out against the problems of Shariah Islam.
Shariah Islam is a male-dominated approach to life which subjugates women to intense civil rights
abuses of every kind. It is an extremist, totalitarian system of annihilation of a human’s dignity, self-
respect, ability to think for herself; it attempts to control her every thought, utterance and movement,
including the control of her finances and dress. The men behind Fatwas try to convince themselves it is in
the best interests of Islamic society to destroy people who contest their view of reality. The people
involved are deeply programmed to the point you cannot just simply talk them out of it. Wanting power
through violence and force to subdue enemies becomes a whole way of life. There is single-minded
purpose to subdue the enemy.
Can enter society, police systems, certain social services sectors
Can enter society, police systems, certain social services sectors
Merriam Webster’s Dictionary
A standardized mental picture that is held in common by members of a group that represents an
oversimplified opinion, prejudiced attitude, or uncritical judgment
To address stereotypes, we need to understand there also can be stereotypes about stereotypes.
That can sound a little strange, but what that means is this: people can feel they are being stereotyped, which
means they feel they are not seen or heard. It can mean they feel others are suggesting that they are less
important. It can mean feeling downtrodden or otherwise downcast.
Stereotyped situations go further than that. It is about how people might feel they are not getting their due
from history because in another world, another time, they could have won or kept things intact. Also it could
have meant their ways were the ways.
In modern times, because of lost prestige, not feeling honored or valued, it might also be people don’t hear
them about what their culture and gender feels is important. Sometimes it is about manhood, according to the
culture, the other culture does have not the right approach to honoring the man. Some people want to call it
machismo, but there is another way to look at it, it’s about being the man and having that respect. So
according to this view, stereotyping makes these issues go upside down, kind of ridiculing the man who wants
to be the man. It’s a cultural issue which can put a slur on the whole male gender; in this way, a man can feel
stereotyped for believing what he believes, for feeling what he feels. He might want to express there is more to
it than that stereotype.
Some of the feelings can be:
I have brown skin. I get lumped in with other brown skinned people. I feel categorized and lumped in with
I am Hispanic and have a half-white brother. When we go to a store, the clerks look at him and give him
special attention. They are nicer to him, but they treat me like crud, if they even notice me at all.” (this was
taken from a blog section and slightly modified here).
People think all Hispanics are members of gangs or part of the anti-American agendas like the ones which
cling to old Mexico history.
I am a Hispanic male and don’t do the machismo thing but try to treat women fairly.
I am black. But I am more of a white-black than a black-black. That is, I am fully black, but I talk easier with
white folks sometimes than blacks, or otherwise I get along with everyone. I get in trouble for this with other
black people, who think I am high-minded or have an attitude, or whatever.
I am black. I see blacks in Chicago beating up on the general citizens, killing girls and stuff like that, just
taking a gun and shooting without compunction in public areas. I get profiled by the police if I am wearing a
backpack or whatever. I don’t want any part of that gang nonsense. I want to go places where it’s safer from
other blacks who are thugs.
So these comments - and many more - can indicate the deep feelings of frustration, anger and sometimes the
giving up that happens among certain racial groups in the USA who feel unfairly stereotyped.
But, agreeing to the above concerns about stereotyping where applicable, there is another side to all of this.
Sometimes people are not stereotyping and so are getting a bad rap for that. People who feel stereotyped can
also themselves misperceive behavior from others, thinking it is about stereotyping.
That is, sometimes it is not about stereotyping, but about misunderstanding and miscommunication. You
might think someone is profiling you or stereotyping you, when in fact, something else is going on.
How to know the difference is part of the key.
Part of the issue can be an insistence that non-discriminatory behavior must look and feel a certain way. There
also might be a desire to inundate a dominant group with punishments so that group fully knows what the
underlings in history felt like, so that it is no longer an act. That is, the dominant group might be perceived as
people with an attitude until they finally are whipped into submission and “get it” by knowing from the inside
out what it meant to be on the wrong side of history for awhile. This can include making the new dominant
group feel like kings and queens. Making the other guy or gal feel it can take on a lot more than words.
Gang related antics, then, can also be about getting even, standing up for one’s race, culture and/or religion,
showing who is boss, and an overall power orientation. Showing power can have violent ramifications, but it
also can be about mind over matter in certain ways. That is, a game of pre-calculation. There also can be
people playing around with the paranormal or bioenergy.
Merriam Webster’s Dictionary
The act of suspecting or targeting a person on the basis of observed characteristics
Updates: 2020/12/26 some editing